and this is why I don't write in open canons

[julesjones]

One of the items in the WnotIP list is a Ianto story inspired by watching Fragments for about the third or fourth time in one week, along with some like-minded friends who were only too happy to watch it again so that one member of the party could catch up on Fragments and Exit Wounds.

Ep 4 wouldn't have hurt it a bit. But it just got thoroughly jossed by the word "Debenhams".

I may write it anyway. I can see ways to to work around the jossing...

ETA: Actually, I've just had an evil little inspiration for a post-series 3 coda...

Comments

[siri0.livejournal.com]

boo. Sara here.

I'm starting a new journal and won't be posting at the old one anymore....

Friend me?

[julesjones]

You're posting!

I have missed you so much this week. Her On The Next Section has not yet seen all of Torchwood and is avoiding spoilers like mad, so I have nobody fannish to squee/scream with at lunch right now. :-(

[siri0.livejournal.com]

Ah Jules you know I wouuldn't squee over Torchwood anyway.

Star Trek.....now as you can see from my icon, i'm more than willing to write steamy kirk/scotty porn squee about ways to be smutty about spocks ears....

:p

Missed you too!! What's the goss on you-know-where? I've posted a link to a wiki article on my new journal, go take a look it'll make you laugh.

I also make lechorous comments about a washing machine repairman

[julesjones]

Oh, I read said article. :-) Also have an anecdote which I will post over there.

[siri0.livejournal.com]

awesome

[seawasp]

I just choose the canon I feel should apply and if it might cause confusion or annoyance, state the exact parameters up-front before the story starts. For instance, I might say, "This Dragonball Z fic assumes everything up through the Cell Game happened pretty much as seen; it also uses parts of movies 2, 5, 6, and 7. Nothing from later sequences, which mostly suck, need apply."

[julesjones]

[grin] You're more ruthless than I am about ditching sucky bits of canon. Though I found that dealing with the sucky bits of My Fandom was an interesting challenge in its own right (and the sucky bit that the current Torchwood series is paralleling actually worked in My Fandom, at least from my perspective.)

[seawasp]

I simply feel I know how to do the stories better than a lot of these guys do once they start getting tired, or (as appears to be the case with Torchwood) combine a feeling of being too clever for their own good with a corporate pressure for success. And since no one's paying me for the fanfic, I feel no obligation to keep anything I don't like in my fics. So if I wrote Star Wars fic, there would be no JarJar Binks, and 90% of the prequels would be gone. Our Saint Seiya fics extended the universe in a number of directions that Kurumada would never have gone... and IMCGO, our stuff ended up vastly better than the repetitive crap he ended up writing.

[katlinel.livejournal.com]

My thought on the Debenhams line was that that and the master tailor thing could both be true, with one sibling knowing more of the matter than the other.

[julesjones]

Ah, that may work better for me than simply changing the first bit to work around it. May I steal that, please?

[katlinel.livejournal.com]

Of course you may! Delighted that it's of use. Incidentally, I don't know if it's the case now, but I think some department stores used to do alterations of the clothes you bought from them - another way in which both may be true. My mother thinks her grandfather did that for Barkers of Kensington (later taken over by House of Fraser) as he was a tailor.

[julesjones]

That's the way I was originally thinking of working around it, because it's still common practice in the department stores where we were living in Silicon Valley -- but then it occurred to me that this may not be true of Debenhams. But there's also the possibility that at some stage he was working as an independent tailor, and was the "go see this guy" for the department store staff when asked about alterations -- and at a later stage used that connection to get a job in the store for whatever reason (financial security, possibly).

[katlinel.livejournal.com]

Yes, that could easily explain what went on. If Ianto is older than his sister, then she might only know of her Dad working at Debenhams, not his earlier career, especially if he'd shifted jobs within the company. Or it might be something that Ianto heard from either of his parents - down the pub with his Dad or if they didn't have that good a relationship, perhaps his mother told him to explain something about his Dad, such as bitterness at a failed career.

[julesjones]

It would also tie in quite well with something I had planned for the first scene (which came from Jack's run-down of Ianto's non-career before joining T1).