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All right, anyone got a spare AO3 invite so that I can experiment with using it as a host for stuff that might get booted from WordPress for naughtiness? (Also, it is long past time I put some more of my *own* fic online, and the Hermit Library is now pretty much read-only.)

Not having looked at AO3 other than grabbing some links for stuff already there, does anyone more familiar with it know if they have any facility for a zine editor to archive a complete anthology zine, or is it a case of you have to be the author to put a story on?

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Date: 2011-08-21 04:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] doire
Shameless begging works; I've got an invite you can have. I just need an email address to send it to - I'm not sure if that becomes the address AO3 uses for you in future but it looks as though it can be changed. Comments on my top entry are screened.

One of the aims is to act as an archive for other archives that may be shutting down and you can certainly create collections. Tagging and hence searching is still rather odd but it seems to be a good place to keep stuff to link to if not to have people find to read by themselves.

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Date: 2011-08-24 02:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] franzeska
It depends exactly what kind of display options you're hoping to have. One option is to create a collection, which is a bit like making a lj/dw com and having different people post to it. Another option is to use the "additional tags" field to add the name of a zine. (Each author would have to add these tags to their own work.)

If you wanted to archive a multi-author zine in a more zine-like format, one option would be to list yourself as co-author of everything and do the different stories as a series or as chapters of one story so they'd go in order and be collected together. You could then use a custom stylesheet to format the whole thing. It might take a few tries to get everything to be in the correct order and to look right, but that's what I'd do if I wanted to recreate the experience of the original zine on AO3. (If I just wanted to have the content up, I'd use a collection.) AO3 can't host art yet, but you can embed it if you host it elsewhere.

Archivists are allowed to move archives to AO3. A zine seems like a slightly different beast, but the authors did still originally grant permission. So, no, you don't always have to be the original author to upload something to AO3.

If an author objected, however, they could complain to the Abuse Committee (which I am on), and we'd take down the story assuming we had enough evidence that it was theirs. I'd personally try to get the authors on AO3 and either have the stories listed under their own accounts but in a community of which you are the owner or go the co-author route (which also requires that all co-authors have an AO3 account). The Open Doors Committee (which I am not on) would be the people to talk to about archive importing or about special collections in non-AO3 formats; they might have some thoughts on zines too, but I haven't asked.

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Date: 2011-08-24 02:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] franzeska
Oh, it also occurs to me to say that you could use the profile page of a collection as a table of contents, which would allow you to maintain some of the zine format aspects while still having stories entirely under their authors' accounts. You can also do an empty top-level collection for an entire fest/zine series/etc. and then sub-collections for each year/issue/whatever.

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Date: 2011-08-24 10:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] franzeska
I can't promise exactly what would happen if there were some complaint to the Abuse team in the future, of course (obligatory disclaimer; sorry), but this all sounds fine to me. This type of archiving is certainly something that AO3 allows, precisely because of the gafiating issue. :)

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Date: 2011-08-21 03:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sheenaghpugh
Do you need invites to use AO3? I didn't think so.

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Date: 2011-08-22 07:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sheenaghpugh
Odd, cos in my other incarnation I have an account and I don't ever recall them handing out invite codes. Must check old email...

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